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Subject : Re: [3dXchange] Re: [Anaglyphs] Walk On Water - Duke, Harvey
From : "Brian Wallace"
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Date : Mon, 14 May 2012 18:05:24 -0400
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Duke,
Thanks for the comment and confirmation that I'm not entirely crazy.
 
 
Harvey,
I use a good noise filter by the brand name of "Imagenomic".  There are limits however to what even a good noise filter can correct on the extremely underexposed image I worked from.  I thought the filter did a good job considering.
 
Just for interest and possible example from this episode for others who may have a similar opportunity in the future, I am including a reduced size but otherwise untouched copy of the original image so that you can better see what I talked about of being way underexposed.  Naturally this will cause noise to be more prevalent when processed.  I also had to paint in the top portion of feathers since this original was out of frame during capture.
 
Brian
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [3dXchange] Re: [Anaglyphs] Walk On Water - Harvey

You can only see a small portion of the image at 100% on the link provided. What I saw as pixellation could easily have just been the noise you mention. What noise filters have you tried? I've had really good success with Topaz Denoise. Anyway, it's a wonderful image, I hope you find a way to make it work. 

~Harvey


On May 14, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Brian Wallace wrote:

 

Harvey,
 
She FINALLY confirmed she understands it's a 3D image as mentioned in the newest email exchange (below) I had with her after I removed my prices per her request.  I personally just don't think they have printed a 3D stereo before although they have not confirmed or denied that either.
 
FAA (Fine Art America) subs out the print work and I know I'm the first person to have a 3D anaglyph image ordered. 
 
I'm familiar with pixilation but both you and Wojtek say there is pixilation so, although I don't see that particular problem, I will have to concede to the experience and expert opinions of you all.  The ordered dimensions was only 12" wide and that included a wide white border.
 
The original image was way underexposed, which I did my best to correct through processing.  As a result, the image had increased noise which again I tried to reduce with a noise filter.  The image is not enlarged and is in fact cropped drastically reducing dimensions greatly in the final composition.  Because of theses circumstances I expect some quality to be diminished which is why I'm questioning but not adamantly arguing the pixilation claims.
 
 
The last email exchange...
 
Hi Brian,

I appreciate it, and yes I do understand that this is a 3D image. I still can't manufacture this item as a print. I'm sorry for the disappointment.

Thanks,
Dawn


----Original Message----
Sent: Monday, May 14th, 2012 - 02:14 PM


Dawn,

I have removed the prices per your request.

As I replied before I really don't see the problem when zoomed in
100%. What I see is only the normal 3D stereo anaglyph qualities of the
overlapping Red and Cyan channels that would be filtered out with the
appropriate Red/Cyan filtered 3D glasses required for viewing. I hope that
is not being misconstrued as the printing problem. For a 12" wide
print, I think it should be fine.

Brian
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [3dXchange] Re: [Anaglyphs] Walk On Water - Wojtek, All

Does she realize it is an anaglyph? Maybe she is referring to the red/cyan offset. That said the image does look a little pixelated and maybe you don't notice it as much because you do so much work for on screen viewing. You might try a continuous tone printing process like sending the image to a Minilab such as Costco or something and see how an enlargement comes out. Some of the photo printers have better interpolation for photographs. 

~Harvey



On May 14, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Brian Wallace wrote:

 

Here is the latest message from the printing company about the purchase order of my anaglyph image.  I did not see the problem she was referring to and apparently could not convince her otherwise.  Wojtek was kind enough to offer his services to improve the image which I uploaded but this is the response I got from printing...
 
Hi Brian,

The site holds onto the old and new upload, just in case the old upload is better than the new one. Unfortunately, the images uploaded are still very problematic for printing. If you view the image at print size, 100% zoomed in, you will see how problematic it is.

I'm going to have to cancel this order and refund the buyers card. I will need you to remove the pricing for this item so that it's only available as a greeting card, not a print.

Thanks,
Dawn


----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Anaglyphs] Walk On Water - Wojtek, Mark

 
 
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Hi Brian,

THat image is still very pixelated at the size ordered. Please preview the image by zooming in on the image so you're viewing it at 100% print size so you can see the pixelation issue. Can you please export a higher quality image?

Unless you can upload a better version of Walking On Water - Use Red-Cyan 3D glasses (http://fineartamerica.com/featured/walking-on-water--use-red-cyan-3d-glasses-brian-wallace.html) by the end of today, we're unfortunately going to have to cancel your order.

We promise our buyers that all orders will ship within 2 - 3 business days, and we simply can't hold up this order any longer.

Please let me know if intend on uploading a better image today.

Thanks.

Dawn
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Anaglyphs] Walk On Water

Very nice!
Wojtek


On May 10, 2012, at 11:08 PM, Brian Wallace wrote:

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