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----- Original Message -----From: Shahrokh DabiriSent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 1:38 AMSubject: Re: [Anaglyphs] Re: ...... Tony Mahi Tony,Thanks for introducing yourself. welcome again!I agree with Spaceman too, Stereo Photo Maker works much better for Phantogram creation.(Phantograms or table Anaglyphs are kinda pop up anaglyph that its viewer should view it from 45 degrees. say a pop up anaglyph have spred on a table. its perspective distortion should compensate after you view it from that 45 degrees view angle).You should be the fifth or seventh doctor in this list, I guess!(Let you know, I'm 50 years old and a Dentist)Let us see your entries,Shahrokh.
TONY MA <ma_tony(-at-)sbcglobal.net> wrote:Hello,
I have done 3Ds for my family and own pleasure for several years.
I don't have any interactions with any other enthusiast so my techniques are not advanced. I will send some samples shortly and I would need advices on color and ghost adjustments. I also am not clear about phantogram. I bought a Bryce 6 program but don't have much clue about using it to do perspective adjustment. I was of the understanding that Photoshop's perspective adjustment was not adequate.
I went to Boise for the NSA meeting this July for the first time. I had buyer's regrets for the auction items that are still sitting unpacked.
Ma is my family name and I am a medical doctor. I have a son making big bucks already (compared to my own beginning) and a daughter going to medical school next year.
I have 2 Sony alpha coordinated by a SLR Shepherd. I have some problems that the two cameras not focusing exactly at the same plane.
Mr. Rubin did not mention his eBay hobby perhaps he did so by choice.
I am enjoying the group's activity and am pleased to make your acquaintance.
T. Ma
Shahrokh Dabiri <dabiri58(-at-)yahoo.com> wrote:It's the first time i hear about that site!!i strongly believe it shoud be him. it's too long i have been involved in 3d but do not know another Marshall Rubin.Would you please send the link to us, I'm too curious to know!Cheers,Shahrokh.PS: Meanwhile, dear Tony thanks for joing us, you are so welcome here. I forgot to say that sooner.Is Ma your real family name or a nickname? if you don't mind let us know a bit more about you, like your age, or how long do you have been in 3D experience and so on!
TONY MA <ma_tony(-at-)sbcglobal.net> wrote:Is this the same Marshall Rubin who has an eBay site? I got a lot of nice 3D slides from him. He is a very nice guy.
T. Ma Houston
Shahrokh Dabiri <dabiri58(-at-)yahoo.com> wrote:We don't have any kind of battle here ;-) we are a group of friends with the same interest or 3D.When someone praise my picture i shouldn't be proud and when someone put critics on my picture i shouldn't be offended, that's the logical solution, i believe!if we don't like to hear critics, even fair, even unfair, then we always can ignore that post, piece a cake ;-) there is no place for offence here.we always can continue our way or ignore the critics. everybody here should be free to say his personal opinion and i strongly respect him/her but I'm not forced to accept that opinion, isn't it!Be honest with ourself, if everybody would have praised our pictures then how we may find our possible flaws. how we may know there are people who may think different, ...in a discussion group like this the negative comments are as important as positive comments, I think so.again, nobody can force us to accept a negative comment thus we should be more patient to eachother and respect other thinkers, I ask you please!Cheers,Shahrokh.
Dariush Radpour <osservo2000(-at-)yahoo.it> wrote:Maybe because Marshall comments were short,very direct, and most of the times critical and negative and I confess, not fare and just all the times,( I remember our continue dispute about ghosts and the light contrasts...) and maybe created some negative reaction in some of the touchy members who decided to not comment his pictures! Well,it's not a good and fare decision to abbandonate the battle's camp...! Ciao,Dariushbytemyzer <bytemyzer(-at-)yahoo.com> ha scritto:> Unfortunately It was "Aug 29, 2007" that our old active friend
Marshall left our Anaglyphs group :-(
> Before that day I talked him many times for convinceing him to
remain but he didn't accepted my words :-(
> in his private posts to me the Marshall claimed; "the Anaglyphs
members do not like his critics or get offend from his constractive
comments. they show their offence by not commenting on his pictures,
maybe ignoring his posts or maybe do being neuter to his posts"!
>
> I hope he accepts my request and join us again.
>
> Dear friends, We should be more patient to eachother. we should
love people as they are not as we want, i believe in this!
>
> Cheers,
> Shahrokh.
I can't speak for others, but I can for me.
On the occasions when Marshall undertook to critique my efforts
(including through my private Email, unsolicited), it was not the
nature of the critique, but the number of times that he gave the same
type of critique that I found to be particularly tiresome. I
acknowledged the validity of his points and expressed to him the
reasons for my choices, and I would have thought that should have
been enough to resolve the matter. I took offense to the fact that
he did not acknowledge and respect my points, as indicated by his
persistence, yet apparently expected me to acknowledge and respect
his.
As for "showing our offence by not commenting on his pictures", I
have an observation to make. Many times people who are highly and/or
frequently critical of others' work are themselves the least able to
accept criticism themselves, and are the quickest to take offense. I
think it is possible that the same people whom Marshall claims took
offense did not comment on his works because: a) they did not care to
touch off a possible bristly response from him, or; b) simply had
nothing to offer by way of comment. In any event, I seriously doubt
that they chose not to comment on his work simply to get back at
him. In general, I have not found the members of this group to be
that petty.
It's a shame that he felt he had to leave the group. Likewise it is
a shame that others have left the group who have expressed
frustration in their dealings with him. You said it best, Shahrokh,
when you said that we should be more patient with "each other".
In any event, he has made many valuable contributions to the group,
and I'm sure he will be missed. I wish him well.
Cheers,
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