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Subject : Re: [Anaglyphs] Mainer, Bill - Happy Holidays-Brian
From : "Brian Wallace"
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Date : Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:40:15 -0500


John,
 
    I was a bit surprised also when I had the same problem finding the saved image but it seems that Vexer will save the image in the same location where Vexer resides itself.  When I saved an image for the first time, I could see that the program did not offer me a dialog box to choose a location myself so I did a "Print Screen" and then pasted it into Irfanview.  Later I discovered where the image was really saved.
 
If you click on the Help > About VEXER... you will see a message saying "VEXER is a fairly stupid drawing program". 
 
By the way, I tried for the first time in SPM, when creating an animated image in GIF format, changing the amount of color to reduce the GIF file size.  On yours I made it 128 colors instead of 256.  It seemed to help a lot to reduce the file size.  When a picture is mostly gray scale, this would be a reasonable consideration given the file limitation in our group.  On Bill Silverman's I tried even lower to 64 colors (the minimum is 2 colors) and it also reduced the file size.  If you ever try this, remember to change the colors back to where you want it afterwards... the max is Full colors (GIF -> 256 colors).
 
Brian
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Mainer
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Anaglyphs] Mainer, Bill - Happy Holidays-Brian

Thanks Brian,
 
I did figure that out and got some nice small lights. I saved it but then I couldn't find it. If I do, I'll show you. What is interesting about the program is that the color settings seem to not be for color but rather for what color is removed. I appreciate the help Brian.
 
John

--- On Sun, 12/21/08, Brian Wallace <Starg82343(-at-)hotmail.com> wrote:
From: Brian Wallace <Starg82343(-at-)hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Anaglyphs] Mainer, Bill - Happy Holidays-Brian
To: anaglyphs(-at-)yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 2:30 AM

John,
 
    You can get tiny dots and make them more symmetrical, (once you've tested the depth and width then undo the test).  Set the brush for "round" and then hold your mouse still and click about 15 to 20 times in the same place until the spot is erased, showing the white underneath.  You can link the 3D draw with the depth adjustment in the menu (E = further away, R = closer to you) so that when you click E or R, the spot will get smaller "E" or larger "R" accordingly.  In my version to you, I did not do the "clicking technique".  I moved the mouse instead which is faster but made the light spots less symmetrical.
 
    Note:  If you don't click the mouse more than once, you can "Undo" a single mistake.  If you need to go back to the original image altogether you can click on "Revert", or you can hit escape and open the image again (longer method).
 
    John, I used SPM on this version to create a GIF animation of the lights on the tree blinking on and off.  I resized the image smaller to make a smaller size file because of the larger Lossless GIF format.
 
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For Bill Silverman...
    Use that technique explained above Bill.  It took me quite a while of experimenting with the menu options to get the link of the 3D draw and depth adjustments (E & R) to work together correctly for me.  You'll just have to do the same thing until you find the correct settings.  I experimented on your image which is completely flat by the way.  The only depth is the fact that the image is behind the stereo window.  I went ahead and put lights on it for you but I didn't try to be exact since there was no 3D depth in the trees or bushes.  Maybe you can take another pair with a better stereo base and try the technique explained above for yourself.
 
I'll send my lighted version to you with your original email.
 
Brian
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Mainer
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Anaglyphs] Happy Holidays-Brian

Neat Brian. I downloaded the program and played with it for a bit. I was hoping to get tiny dots, but I'm not sure I can do so with Vexer. I'll keep trying.

--- On Sat, 12/20/08, Brian Wallace <Starg82343(-at-)hotmail. com> wrote:
From: Brian Wallace <Starg82343(-at-)hotmail. com>
Subject: Re: [Anaglyphs] Happy Holidays
To: anaglyphs(-at-)yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 7:56 PM

Hi Mainer,
 
    I've had a little program for a while that I haven't used much.  It's a drawing program which has an option to draw in 3D and also allows you to change the depth, color, brushes, etc.  With a little experimentation I was able to adapt it to simulate white lights on your tree.  (I used the erase option instead of color).  Before sending you my results I did a search on the web to see if there was a newer version and there was.  The program is called Vexer 46.  (I used Vexer 44 from 2007).  The program is only 567 KB file size.  Here is the web site to the newer version... http://www.kelbv. com/vexer. php
 
I've attached my lights version with this email.
 
Thanks for for the very nice image!
Brian
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Mainer
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 6:44 PM
Subject: [Anaglyphs] Happy Holidays

There have been some very impressive posts here lately...Knots, Maske, Roma and Fairytales to name just a few. This one seem pretty plain in comparison. I have enjoyed all of your posts...but have not had much time to respond. Thank you all for sharing.
 
Happy Holidays
Mainer
 
P.S. I tried to put 3d lights on the tree with PhotoShop, I picked the color from the lighthouse lens and dotted the tree with pencil. I tried to match each side before assembling the ana. I almost had something worth keeping .....but it just didn't quite line up. If someone would be willing to give me some tips, I would appreciate it.



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