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Subject : Re: [Anaglyphs] Brian/Pride of Baltimore II (Tall Ship)
From : Dariush Radpour
To : anaglyphs(-at-)yahoogroups.com
Date : Thu, 9 Apr 2009 21:32:42 +0000 (GMT)




Dear Brian,
please give me a little time to organize my mind in english... to answer your very interestig reply, specially the last chapter that regards Art and creativity.
Till later,
Ciao,
Dariush

--- Gio 9/4/09, Brian Wallace <Starg82343(-at-)hotmail.com> ha scritto:

Da: Brian Wallace <Starg82343(-at-)hotmail.com>
Oggetto: Re: [Anaglyphs] Pride of Baltimore II (Tall Ship)
A: anaglyphs(-at-)yahoogroups.com
Data: Giovedì 9 Aprile 2009, 21:09

Thanks Dariush,
 
I did not use Photoshop but as mentioned, this version was changed from the original by incorporating the "Illustrator" plugin filter which I used through IrfanView to give the image a different kind of artsy look.  It can also be used through Photoshop or other editors.  I did not use that plugin filter on the Flickr version (did you go there?), but from similar comments, I've come to believe it is too intense for many viewers.  My less than satisfactory cloning of some clouds to remove R/R may also have contributed to the problem.
 
I think most of the problem with this image are the values given when applying the tone mapping of the pseudo HDR.  There are numerous adjustments that can be made in that software (given the time to experiment) that may eventually appease some viewers.  You can even adjust it to the point of no change from the original but then what would be the point?  Perhaps I was too drastic and needed to cut back on the intensity or compromise other adjustments.  I'm only now trying this software Imre kindly supplied the link for.  It may very well end up not being a good tool for anaglyphs but I also think experimentation is required to discover it's capabilities and how to apply it to 3D stereo.  It may be useful for certain anaglyph images and not others.  This is something that still needs to be explored.
 
It never ceases to amaze me how quickly something new or different is "written off" before it's had time to be thoroughly evaluated and it's full potential realized, especially from people with creative or artistic minds, backgrounds and training.  Where has the inspiration to discover, explore, create and learn new methods and techniques disappeared to?  Although this image may have problems, let's keep an open mind about new avenues that may eventually yield beneficial results.
 
Cheers,
Brian
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 2:16 PM
Subject: R: [Anaglyphs] Pride of Baltimore II (Tall Ship)

Brian,
by my point of view, too much graphical (photoshop?) elaboration made this picture un-real, so it's three dimentionality has lost it's impact power! Personally I prefer a real 3D image from the real scene.
Cheers,
Dariush  

--- Mer 8/4/09, Brian Wallace <Starg82343(-at-)hotmail. com> ha scritto:

Da: Brian Wallace <Starg82343(-at-)hotmail. com>
Oggetto: [Anaglyphs] Pride of Baltimore II (Tall Ship)
A: "anaglyphs" <anaglyphs(-at-)yahoogrou ps.com>
Data: Mercoledì 8 Aprile 2009, 02:01

Pride of Baltimore II - (Tall Ship)
 
This was another old cha cha image that I tried improving on.
 
Image Changes:
I did some cloning of the ships flag and some clouds, set the image behind the stereo window, cropped much of the water and sky, and tone mapped with pseudo HDR (link given by Imre).
I then decided to see the effect a plugin filter called Illustrator would have on the image.  That's the version here.  If you'd like to see the image without the filter as a straight 3D anaglyph, please go to the Flickr link under my name.
 
***
 
Ship Info:

Pride of Baltimore II was commissioned in 1988 as a sailing memorial to her immediate predecessor, the original Pride of Baltimore, which was tragically sunk by a white squall off Puerto Rico in 1986, taking her captain and three crew members down with her.  Both ships were built in the Inner Harbor as replicas of 1812-era topsail schooners, the type of vessels, called Baltimore Clippers, that helped America win the War of 1812 and finally secure its freedom.

Information about this ship can be found at the link below...
 
 
 
Brian
  
My Flickr page:
http://www.flickr. com/photos/ ur4chun8/
Click on a thumbnail pic, then
Click on "+ ALL SIZES" (for larger view)
 
 


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