Imre, I really don't know if you are NOT able to understand the point or simply you are making a joke here! Instead to be offended or express your anger or surprise try to understand the main point. FW system is a new entry in this field that "damage"  the main concept of the 3D image because of its introduction a second  fake and false level to the image's natural surface! Is it too hard to understand something so simple as this ?!!!!! If you don't understand something so simple as this, ask help of somebody to explain it better to you in a different way and language. It is NOT a different visual system of looking to the FW but a different mental concept that I tried to explain to you before even in italian for which you asked pardon in my name too...but evidently you refuse it or maybe unable to understand it. I surrender at this point. Have many happy FW foever. Ciao, Dariush --- Lun 18/1/10, Imre dr.Zsolnai-Nagy <imrezsolnainagy(-at-)gmail.com> ha scritto: Da: Imre dr.Zsolnai-Nagy <imrezsolnainagy(-at-)gmail..com> Oggetto: Re: [Anaglyphs] Kenneth/Why FLOATING WINDOW? A: anaglyphs(-at-)yahoogroups.com Data: Lunedì 18 gennaio 2010, 15:17   Hi Marshall! I think this is my LAST message on this topic... What is interesting, is this: So far, about 90% of the FWs I've seen have been so irritating to me that I stopped commenting on most views that contain them. So irritating? Me and others must ask pardon! We dont want never irritate you! I think your words are too hard! We dont merit it! But if you want open a discussion on "what is irritating?" , we are here! IMHO you and Dariush have a visual system what is out of the common man's  visual properties and this isnt an insult, believe me! Imre 2010/1/18 Marshall Rubin <mrubin(-at-)hvc.rr. com> Dariush--   I largely agree with you, but carrying your logic further, that could also be used to argue that 2D-3D conversions can compromise the magic of a 2-D picture, since creating depth where none was originally intended represents an added artifact.   We could further claim that by placing any photograph or painting within a physical artifact known as a frame, also compromises the original integrity of the work of art.   So far, about 90% of the FWs I've seen have been so irritating to me that I stopped commenting on most views that contain them.  But occasionally I've seen one that works well, so I won't rule out their use entirely entirely.   I'm just hopeful that the use of the FW eventually, like most fads, will fade away.   Marshall From: Dariush Radpour Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 5:53 AM To: anaglyphs(-at-)yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [Anaglyphs] Kenneth/Why FLOATING WINDOW? it all depends on your consideration about a 3D photography. By my very personal point of view any extra and stravagant added artifact, compromises that magic impression that we are assisting a "real" scene out of the "time machine's window". Cheers, Dariush --- Dom 17/1/10, Kenneth Nellis <nellisks(-at-)verizon. net> ha scritto: Da: Kenneth Nellis <nellisks(-at-)verizon. net> Oggetto: Re: [Anaglyphs] Why FLOATING WINDOW? Last try for convince-Imre A: anaglyphs(-at-)yahoogrou ps.com Data: Domenica 17 gennaio 2010, 22:30   On Jan 17, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Tim Johnson wrote: because windows don't normally float in space But, wouldnâ??t it be cool of they could! â??Ken -- http://www.conversi on3d.freeweb. hu http://imre3d. axo.hu